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Post by murmkuma on Jun 2, 2007 7:45:23 GMT -5
For anyone who doesnt know or recognize that theres been alot of ILL hip-hop comming from north of the border... Maestro (Fresh Wes) Canadas 1st dope ass MC an Classified...The East coast rapper Canada's future of hip-hop just put out a vid not too long ago for 'hard to be hip-hop... i lovethe message of the vid...an I love that my favorite rapper from back in the day decided to come back an drop somethin dope. Im seein alot of oldschool rappers talk about the state of hip-hop...I hope they come back and drop some lessons for the posers. anyways essay over heres the link...enjoy.. btw...Im developing my own mmo..so I aint around much anymore..but im keepin tabs on a few of ya's www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuEmY9DCuGk
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Post by jonesat on Jun 3, 2007 20:56:20 GMT -5
If you want to hear hip-hop, pick up a Roots album, 'cause these guys are not it. Sorry. "dope" *boom chack boom chack* That's all it takes for you? That shit was wack and so replayed. And, dude, I hate to say it, but that sounded like a D12 track to me (especially with that gay-ass melody). I hate to say it, because everybody compares every white rapper to Eminem. But the shit's so glaringly obvious here that it's sad. I've never liked Eminem, never listened to an entire Eminem album, and it's STILL clearly evident to me. Be original! Man, these are the type of guys that are the bane of true hip-hop. They try on any style they think will sell. But they were scratching in the hook and had a break dancer in the vid, it must be hip-hop, right? Duurrrr. These are the type of dudes who do a mental 69 with posers. "You tell us that we're hip-hop, and we'll tell you that you're hip-hop" And, yeah, they're really repping Canada with those White Sox and Yankees hats. Yeah, these guys are hip-hop, Avril Lavigne is punk, and my cat is the Dalai Lama. LOL looks like you DON"t have any taste after all
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Post by jonesat on Jun 3, 2007 22:33:22 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm not easily impressed by sugar-coated rappers. My ears have matured, and I don't buy into these cats that are really just puppets for record execs. 11 years of listening to the music will do that to you. If you haven't heard of a guy by the name of Immortal Technique, I suggest you check him out. Real hardcore, political shit. Not for softies and krunk-thumping rejects. if your so knowledged in that area, why do your raps stink
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Post by murmkuma on Jun 4, 2007 5:53:09 GMT -5
and seriously dude you just unravelled your whole argument by comparring classified and Maestro to the sick demented rhymes of immortal technique..yes i like his style and yes hes got skill....but dude you dont know the 1st fuckin thing about hip-hop...play the song real slow like and maybe listen to what theyre sayin....bet you loved LL when you was a kid...bet you was one o those cats who hated on him a couple years later....i wouldve figure YOU having been in the scene for so long wouldve caught that shit....but turns out your just another poser who the watched 8 mile battles too many times and you seriously beleive what you get is hip -hop....do me a favour....Classified is still up and comming...but search out a few interviews with maestro...HE createD Canada's hip-hop scene and is not polluted by your weak ass industry cookie cutter gangsta shit from the south...canadian hip-hop has nothing to do with our big brother indeustry fatcat counterpart from the south...guess thats the difference between canadains and americans...guess thats why you all have to blast each other in school huh? you probably missed the whole point of the video too didnt you? the industry masks everything...what you see isnt always what yo u get..or is that still too deep for you. and just fyi I heard of classified before I heard of eminem so ya that one dont wash either also it's not what you where its where your from that you represent and dont be offended if i take the side of an MC whos been doin the shit for 20 years (and is maybe just a little sick of all the gangsta shit) over a white boy from the suburbs who picked up a rap album after 2 pac an biggie got shot oh and to reinfforce jones point yes...randomly linking words that rhyme together doesnt make you an MC... telling a story with a continual flow does...I'll give you this..at least immortal can do that... an shit...you hit a nerve here...this jam takes a poke at fans LIKE YOU. who think hip -hop has to sound the same... does no-one else find it weird that hip-hop fans forget about a jam 6 months after its been released....how come there is no classic hip-hop stations....oh right.... cuz hip -hop fans are more like fad chasers than hardcore fans...if its old its out...and you know what the whole genre of music has suffered becuase of it...well if your not affected by FADS and actually dig GOOD music with a POINT youll be happy to know that there is a trend of old school rappers bringin back the origninal skillz...maybe some of these younger cats well learn a thing or two and i guess you missed the line where he says 'aint nobody livin offa doin windmills) the whole culture has changed man...b-boys, mc's dj's tearin it up together. do yourself a favour an check out some other shit by these artists then maybe you'll underdstand what this song is about. like this one you probably wont like www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ivwvi_1Mgand this one i know youll hate cuz its real hip hop from like 1989 maestros 1st hit....most of you wont like this one...this is from when music was music...when you didnt have to prove what a badass you are.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzull7scV2Yheres his second hit...you'll hate this one too www.allmusicvideocodes.com/m/Maestro-Fresh-Wes/3675-Drop-The-Needle/index.htmlhere hate this interview too www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz5N0kF9m4wlast one him giving a young mc some advice on the streets...now tell me this guy aint hip-hop www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5YmTNHna4o&mode=related&search=
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Post by jonesat on Jun 4, 2007 12:57:06 GMT -5
and seriously dude you just unravelled your whole argument by comparring classified and Maestro to the sick demented rhymes of immortal technique..yes i like his style and yes hes got skill....but dude you dont know the 1st fuckin thing about hip-hop...play the song real slow like and maybe listen to what theyre sayin....bet you loved LL when you was a kid...bet you was one o those cats who hated on him a couple years later....i wouldve figure YOU having been in the scene for so long wouldve caught that shit....but turns out your just another poser who the watched 8 mile battles too many times and you seriously beleive what you get is hip -hop....do me a favour....Classified is still up and comming...but search out a few interviews with maestro...HE createD Canada's hip-hop scene and is not polluted by your weak ass industry cookie cutter gangsta shit from the south...canadian hip-hop has nothing to do with our big brother indeustry fatcat counterpart from the south...guess thats the difference between canadains and americans...guess thats why you all have to blast each other in school huh? you probably missed the whole point of the video too didnt you? the industry masks everything...what you see isnt always what yo u get..or is that still too deep for you. and just fyi I heard of classified before I heard of eminem so ya that one dont wash either also it's not what you where its where your from that you represent and dont be offended if i take the side of an MC whos been doin the shit for 20 years (and is maybe just a little sick of all the gangsta shit) over a white boy from the suburbs who picked up a rap album after 2 pac an biggie got shot oh and to reinfforce jones point yes...randomly linking words that rhyme together doesnt make you an MC... telling a story with a continual flow does...I'll give you this..at least immortal can do that... an shit...you hit a nerve here...this jam takes a poke at fans LIKE YOU. who think hip -hop has to sound the same... does no-one else find it weird that hip-hop fans forget about a jam 6 months after its been released....how come there is no classic hip-hop stations....oh right.... cuz hip -hop fans are more like fad chasers than hardcore fans...if its old its out...and you know what the whole genre of music has suffered becuase of it...well if your not affected by FADS and actually dig GOOD music with a POINT youll be happy to know that there is a trend of old school rappers bringin back the origninal skillz...maybe some of these younger cats well learn a thing or two and i guess you missed the line where he says 'aint nobody livin offa doin windmills) the whole culture has changed man...b-boys, mc's dj's tearin it up together. do yourself a favour an check out some other shit by these artists then maybe you'll underdstand what this song is about. like this one you probably wont like www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ivwvi_1Mgand this one i know youll hate cuz its real hip hop from like 1989 maestros 1st hit....most of you wont like this one...this is from when music was music...when you didnt have to prove what a badass you are.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzull7scV2Yheres his second hit...you'll hate this one too www.allmusicvideocodes.com/m/Maestro-Fresh-Wes/3675-Drop-The-Needle/index.htmlhere hate this interview too www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz5N0kF9m4wlast one him giving a young mc some advice on the streets...now tell me this guy aint hip-hop www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5YmTNHna4o&mode=related&search=Finally someone agrees with me lol "but turns out your just another poser who the watched 8 mile battles too many times and you seriously beleive what you get is hip -hop...." "randomly linking words that rhyme together doesnt make you an MC" that was the best written reply yet Amen Murmkuma, Amen
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Post by Exia on Jun 4, 2007 13:41:19 GMT -5
i think hip hop isnt that great ill listen to maybe a few rap songs but they grow old too quick with me.
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Post by captainnoob on Jun 4, 2007 19:33:13 GMT -5
You are all posers, fool You act just like a big tool. I'm the best rapper here you know Murm, you're just my little hoe. Stop trying to act like your skin is dark Just stick to writing cards for Hallmark. You think you’re a ninja but you’re not asian I'm the best rapper cause I'm caucasian.
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Post by jonesat on Jun 4, 2007 21:11:22 GMT -5
LMFAO at all this shit! Look, did I call you a poser? No, but I used the word and, instantly, you got all up-in-arms about it. Guess if the shoe fits, wear it, right? Man, that's a lot of typing to make absolutely no point. You yuppies wouldn't know hip-hop if it came up and bit you in your asses. Don't try to give me a speech. Murm, I don't want to hear you calling anybody a poser. Weren't you the one who told me you were a "big time drug dealer". LOL!!! Motherfucker, you're on an online game trying to convince people that you're dealing. Look, just 'cause you peddle weed to your friends, doesn't mean you're a "big time drug dealer". And don't even deny you said that. Damn, you guys are funny. I see you tough guys go out of your way to insult me. Whatever. I don't care. It's all funny to me. The discussion's over. I voice an opinion, and, suddenly, things get personal with you sheltered bitches. Now run along to your karate classes that mommy and daddy signed you up for, you little scrappy-doo motherfuckers. LOL! lol your a dork, you must be the biggest virgin in the suburbs
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Post by murmkuma on Jun 5, 2007 7:50:12 GMT -5
LMFAO at all this shit! Look, did I call you a poser? No, but I used the word and, instantly, you got all up-in-arms about it. Guess if the shoe fits, wear it, right? Man, that's a lot of typing to make absolutely no point. You yuppies wouldn't know hip-hop if it came up and bit you in your asses. Don't try to give me a speech. Murm, I don't want to hear you calling anybody a poser. Weren't you the one who told me you were a "big time drug dealer". LOL!!! Motherfucker, you're on an online game trying to convince people that you're dealing. Look, just 'cause you peddle weed to your friends, doesn't mean you're a "big time drug dealer". And don't even deny you said that. Damn, you guys are funny. I see you tough guys go out of your way to insult me. Whatever. I don't care. It's all funny to me. The discussion's over. I voice an opinion, and, suddenly, things get personal with you sheltered bitches. Now run along to your karate classes that mommy and daddy signed you up for, you little scrappy-doo motherfuckers. LOL! NEVER NEVER NEVER said I was a big time drug dealer...you dumb fuck...i said I HAVE dealt...and it was small time and I broke the first rule of dealing....and that was like 10 years ago..get your facts straight...especially if your gonna try to tell me the history of my own life... Ive rolled with some heavies in my day, no lie, but I never claimed to be a gangsta or a thug..that whole section of the culture disgusts me...nice try though ....like my homies said..its hard to hip-hop...specially with a tonne of white boys from the suburbs tellin you you aint ghetto enough...grow the fuck up already... an thats it the fuckin battles back on with you bitches.you sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fuckin hip hop...lets see you produce something that makes sense with some substance *nods to jones...I always got your back dog... your the one who decided to come into this thread an start trash talkin....if you didnt want a dick in your mouth you shoulda kept it closed... at least the capn has a flow as for what I am....... a poser?..maybe to some cuz..im growin my hair right now and i have a tattoo of gene simmons on my left arm.. do I wear fubu or echo? hell no..only name brand I'll ever PIMP is my own....do I like basketball...fuck no....Im not a stereo type....but i was called a Wigger back in the day...still have all my rap tapes and cd's...and i was there for this WHOLE fuckin culture dog, I seen this shit go from underground to pop...I been here the whole time....lets see if your still defending hip-hop in another 20 years
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Post by jonesat on Jun 5, 2007 12:29:22 GMT -5
LMFAO at all this shit! Look, did I call you a poser? No, but I used the word and, instantly, you got all up-in-arms about it. Guess if the shoe fits, wear it, right? Man, that's a lot of typing to make absolutely no point. You yuppies wouldn't know hip-hop if it came up and bit you in your asses. Don't try to give me a speech. Murm, I don't want to hear you calling anybody a poser. Weren't you the one who told me you were a "big time drug dealer". LOL!!! Motherfucker, you're on an online game trying to convince people that you're dealing. Look, just 'cause you peddle weed to your friends, doesn't mean you're a "big time drug dealer". And don't even deny you said that. Damn, you guys are funny. I see you tough guys go out of your way to insult me. Whatever. I don't care. It's all funny to me. The discussion's over. I voice an opinion, and, suddenly, things get personal with you sheltered bitches. Now run along to your karate classes that mommy and daddy signed you up for, you little scrappy-doo motherfuckers. LOL! NEVER NEVER NEVER said I was a big time drug dealer...you dumb fuck...i said I HAVE dealt...and it was small time and I broke the first rule of dealing....and that was like 10 years ago..get your facts straight...especially if your gonna try to tell me the history of my own life... Ive rolled with some heavies in my day, no lie, but I never claimed to be a gangsta or a thug..that whole section of the culture disgusts me...nice try though ....like my homies said..its hard to hip-hop...specially with a tonne of white boys from the suburbs tellin you you aint ghetto enough...grow the fuck up already... an thats it the fuckin battles back on with you bitches.you sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fuckin hip hop...lets see you produce something that makes sense with some substance *nods to jones...I always got your back dog... your the one who decided to come into this thread an start trash talkin....if you didnt want a dick in your mouth you shoulda kept it closed... at least the capn has a flow as for what I am....... a poser?..maybe to some cuz..im growin my hair right now and i have a tattoo of gene simmons on my left arm.. do I wear fubu or echo? hell no..only name brand I'll ever PIMP is my own....do I like basketball...fuck no....Im not a stereo type....but i was called a Wigger back in the day...still have all my rap tapes and cd's...and i was there for this WHOLE fuckin culture dog, I seen this shit go from underground to pop...I been here the whole time....lets see if your still defending hip-hop in another 20 years lmao, you definatly dont look like a wigger dude lol, far from it thats like saying mr.t reminds me of Mr. Rogers neighbourhood
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Post by jonesat on Jun 5, 2007 18:59:54 GMT -5
LOL!!! I start digging a hole for you, and what do you do? You take the shovel out of my hands and finish the job for yourself. Man, your famous spaz-outs are always worth the miniscule effort. Thanks for playing the game, bitch. I'd say, "Don't make me laugh", but it's a little too late. And, dude, you ain't putting your dick in anybody's mouth, even if you wanted to. Your boy, joney, has that shit in a DEATHLOCK! LOL! And you can say I'm from the suburbs until you're blue in the face (and your butt-buddy will echo it back like the parrot that he is), but that isn't going to make it true. Your opinion about my music is worth shit to me. There are dozens of people in my area that love my flow. Now, let's see you spit your garbage to anybody outside of your small circle of friends and not have them laugh in your face. You can't layer 3 or 4 takes (that are out-of-sync as fuck) of your nursery rhymes in the streets. Listen, little murmaid. All you're worth is a few laughs, and I've already had plenty. So, just be quiet and go about your petty existence. I was never here to have a debate with you. You give yourself too much credit. You're way too unintelligent to suit the role. I just wanted to get that hilarious, way-too-serious reaction from you. And I did. I'm done. "Now, let's see you spit your garbage to anybody outside of your small circle of friends and not have them laugh in your face." lol i'm sure all your friends in "Western Pennsylvania" in the suburbs would like your "flow", theirs no doubt about that. your very un-original in everything you do lol, all you do is follow whatever is the new popular opinion or fad. I've shown your shitty videos to tons of people, also on numerous forums, and everyone thinks that your making some kind of joke, when i tell them your serious, that really gets the laughs going. The sad thing is, your horrible, but you think your actually good lol. and looking through the forums, i dont see any of murms "spaz outs" so where are you getting that from? I guess it just hurts you personally to be so very wrong about something and have nothing to defend yourself with but your shitty one liners. "You can't layer 3 or 4 takes (that are out-of-sync as fuck) of your nursery rhymes in the streets." are you trying to say you take your "rhymes" to the streets? lol!! the rough neck "west penn" streets of the suburbs must be tough huh. You sure are a badass rapper. *Refers everyone back to the movie "Malibu's Most Wanted"* Once you've seen that, you'll see exactly how lil nicky is haha "I was never here to have a debate with you." lol maybe you should read your first reply then, you must have forgotten you basically slang'd everything he posted. That my intellectually challenged "friend" is how you start a debate. If you didnt want to start one, you should have kept your bitchy mouth shut. and yes, suburbs, i'm basing that off of the pictures frmo your myspace where you can see your home and neighbourhood. No one asked for your opinion from the beginning, if we wanted to know what you would say, we'd just go by whatever the media would say, since your just a clone of every other wanabe kid out there. and i back up murm, because he's right. simple as that. maybe you should keep your "replies" to your shittly little you tube videos.
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Post by jonesat on Jun 5, 2007 21:53:31 GMT -5
Wow.... you're seriously so hung up on me that you camp my myspace page and talk about me on "numerous forums"? That's pretty sad, dude. Keep digging. camp? lol no, you posted it one day in the chat board for people to check out, so i did. and yes, when i find a funny video, i post it on the forums i frequent, as i do here. its not my fault your a joke lol
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Post by murmkuma on Jun 5, 2007 22:56:00 GMT -5
seriously sad man....lets see you back it up..i bust a rhyme dissin out you an the capn...an ya my shits outta synch..i was the first one to point it out...but at least im makin an effort to put my shit down and eliminate the bugs along the way...an if I did bust my shit on the streets..it wouldnt be out of synch dawg...thats all tech issues... and seein as how most of my 'small circle' of friends that i let listen to my shit are layin the foundation for hip-hop in the city and asides from the tech issues their impressed..again your diluted opinion means shit... and hells ya i picked up the shovel for ya...figured since your such a big fan i'd go 8 mile on ya and give you some ammo to use against me... but seein as how you cant rhyme for shit i guess we can look forward to you just blabbin on and on here..or do you actually have a bit of skill to back up all the talk? this thread was supposed to be about the new classified video.... i wanna get back to pimpin class instead of trashtalkin small minded hicks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmROHIHS2K8no mistakes and find out www.youtube.com/watch?v=raWZCJNKWvc&mode=related&search=pretty dope vids..unless your nick linnear and as for suburbs..ive seen pics of you chillin on a damn porch man....we dont get porches we get steps...that be some rich southun yankee shit me imagines..hey jones you alls got anything bigger than steps down there?
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Post by murmkuma on Jun 6, 2007 0:06:24 GMT -5
;D in the spirit of the occasion i put back up the linnear capn diss.. so now everyone can hear the weak recording of the battle rhyme linnears reffering to...fyi it was an experiment..like i said i was trying to fix bugs in my recording setup..so its really only outta synch in the beginning...but by the time i worked em out i didnt feel like going back and spittin the whole thing..though the more lil nicky mouths off the more i want to go back an redo it... anyways by the time you read this the song should be up on my page... myspace.com/ritzinfinity and heres the lyrics cuz o the shitty ass recording and my low ass voice
knock out punch linnear/capn diss by MC ritz (murmkuma)
i see the lee but yo wheres the vicious cuz i checked your rhymes an they more like fergalicous imma make you my bitch an have you doin my dishes pull 1 switch an you'll sleep with the fishes got no problems throwin corpses in dicthes sewn back together with the amature stitches call me bill gates as im jackin your riches after this beef water under the bridges concrete feet fo thos wack lil snitches try to tackle this cat with the biggest britches
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knock out punch when i flip the scripn' double vision but you'll see me grinnin one more shot till your head is spinnin best save yourself throw in the linen
its just round 1 an im takin control got you locked in the corner with blow after blow beat you to a pulp just to let you know who be the real mc with the funky flow now imma whip you fast but imma cut you slow spit in the wound so infection will grow listen for the lesson so that after the show back home safe to your family youll be able to go up north we dont play while were covered in snow your ass'll get slain for 2 grams o this dro'
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now in round 2 imma face the capn got 1 tip for ya stick to dancin seen ya one time with ya bitchass tappin 20 times betta than ya bitchass rappin stinks worse than a shit wrapped in napkin dipped in sweat from a fatman afghan only person who could save you now is batman aint no other ninja stop that shit from hapnin noboday ever seen no-one bitch slap the capn now imma bust ya jaw just to stop ya yappin
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now ya got the right show but you got wrong char im the dark hooded fella with the evil glare so when you try to make moves on the low talkin bear i just batter an bruise slice an bite without a care aint got shit on my stomach aint got no bright coloured hair but i do have the power to kill with one stare now when imma roll through your hood this shit you goin blare screamin Murmkuma's so good this shit isnt quite fair lets hand it to the capn for steppin up next but were low on time an so i break ya neck
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fuckin wasted too much time on you muthafuckers... specially this bitch ass pirate with a ninja complex.... fuckin.... breakin nex
insert hate/mail lil nicky's commenst below....but heaven forbid he should produce a rhyme
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Post by jonesat on Jun 6, 2007 2:52:27 GMT -5
;D in the spirit of the occasion i put back up the linnear capn diss.. so now everyone can hear the weak recording of the battle rhyme linnears reffering to...fyi it was an experiment..like i said i was trying to fix bugs in my recording setup..so its really only outta synch in the beginning...but by the time i worked em out i didnt feel like going back and spittin the whole thing..though the more lil nicky mouths off the more i want to go back an redo it... anyways by the time you read this the song should be up on my page... myspace.com/ritzinfinity and heres the lyrics cuz o the shitty ass recording and my low ass voice knock out punch linnear/capn diss by MC ritz (murmkuma) i see the lee but yo wheres the vicious cuz i checked your rhymes an they more like fergalicous imma make you my bitch an have you doin my dishes pull 1 switch an you'll sleep with the fishes got no problems throwin corpses in dicthes sewn back together with the amature stitches call me bill gates as im jackin your riches after this beef water under the bridges concrete feet fo thos wack lil snitches try to tackle this cat with the biggest britches (hook) knock out punch when i flip the scripn' double vision but you'll see me grinnin one more shot till your head is spinnin best save yourself throw in the linen its just round 1 an im takin control got you locked in the corner with blow after blow beat you to a pulp just to let you know who be the real mc with the funky flow now imma whip you fast but imma cut you slow spit in the wound so infection will grow listen for the lesson so that after the show back home safe to your family youll be able to go up north we dont play while were covered in snow your ass'll get slain for 2 grams o this dro' (hook) now in round 2 imma face the capn got 1 tip for ya stick to dancin seen ya one time with ya bitchass tappin 20 times betta than ya bitchass rappin stinks worse than a shit wrapped in napkin dipped in sweat from a fatman afghan only person who could save you now is batman aint no other ninja stop that shit from hapnin noboday ever seen no-one bitch slap the capn now imma bust ya jaw just to stop ya yappin (hook) now ya got the right show but you got wrong char im the dark hooded fella with the evil glare so when you try to make moves on the low talkin bear i just batter an bruise slice an bite without a care aint got shit on my stomach aint got no bright coloured hair but i do have the power to kill with one stare now when imma roll through your hood this shit you goin blare screamin Murmkuma's so good this shit isnt quite fair lets hand it to the capn for steppin up next but were low on time an so i break ya neck (hook) fuckin wasted too much time on you muthafuckers... specially this bitch ass pirate with a ninja complex.... fuckin.... breakin nex insert hate/mail lil nicky's commenst below....but heaven forbid he should produce a rhyme lol he wont produce anything, dont u remember last time he agree'd to do a battle with you, then all of a sudden, realized he couldnt do it and quit lol. when i was readin that murm, i had the tune from spesh k - knocken em down in my head, for some reason it seemed to fit the song nicely lol. when u get pro with animation, u should just custon animate a video for ur rhymes, kinda like what, what're there names did...uhhhhhh....fuck...tip of the tongue....Gorillaz i think, all their vids were animated youtube.com/watch?v=qpDer9wdUEw*just a suggestion* might be cool to screw around with one day, be different from all the other fresh raps that are put out nowadays
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Post by suavisimo on Jun 6, 2007 6:57:32 GMT -5
I wasn't going to post to this thread at all because I think both sides don't realize the most important thing about making music: that you like making music. But I saw some of the stuff murm posted and had a few comments:
- When was the last true 'hip-hop' video you saw that starts with a lamborghini and a ferrarri? I'm with Nic here. - When did it matter if your technology was wack? People used to make drum beats, to quote Busta Rhymes "out of a cup and a broken pencil". If your stuff was hot it was hot. - Some of the best stuff that will come from the grass roots will never ever hit mainstream and that's what makes it the best.
Peddling stuff on YouTube, posting stuff about street cred, instigating conflict, havin to represent for you hood without it representing you, that doesn't make hip hop, it doesnt even make music. And if you take apart what Nic said, here's the message: "It's wack, I don't like it."
What do you need to go and tirade on him for that for? Calling him out and bringing his personal life into this discussion just makes him hate your stuff more. What do you expect from him? To love everything you make? You expect him to bow down to you and shower you with affection that is EXACTLY the driving force behind corporate industry-built music? And if you don't care about him, then let it go.
Seriously, I hope you guys flame me for stepping into it, because I never post to this type of thing and I figured maybe I should to do something different. But the ones who are the weakest, are the ones that talk the most about how they arent.
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Post by murmkuma on Jun 6, 2007 8:47:13 GMT -5
sorry suave im gonna have to pick you apart here... assuming by your first point....you didnt watch the whole video...OR you missed the part where they walk up to the cars and you see they are about 7 inches in size... as for technology being laggy it shouldnt matter ...on the street...but I guess maybe now would be a good time to point out that this is the information super highway and in order for me to bring good gritty 'street rhymes' to the net...im gonna have to record them...no shit? for real dawg.....cuz we havent invented that streaming pipeline to the street yet... 3rd point ...right on the money! glad you touched on the music part of it...as that was my whole point of startin this thread... an if you read the thread...look who threw the 1st punch....i dont take shit from no-one, no-one. you say something that pisses me off on a bad day...ill go on about that shit for hours. i dont expect nick, you or anyone else to dig my shit..i make music for me...if you like it or if you hate all the better that means its doin its thing...guess my point is that its real easy to trash talk someone elses work but not everyone can get up an spit... and if you wanna open your mouth an start talkin shit...you best be prepared to back it up with somethin...that goes well beyond the spectrum of music. dont feel sorry for nick he brought this verbal assault on himself...he felt the need to interject his opinion ...we have the right to express ours. if all he was sayin is 'its wack' thats all he woulda said. so again now since its about music..heres another classified joint WARNING if your not canadian you will probably hate this video!!!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3v04Lb7bYI@jones i actually had a concept in mind for animation for 'knockout punch' ...like i said at the beginning of the thread though, 90% of my free time is goin to the mmo now... perhaps after it comes out an I get all rich an shit so heres what im talkin about.... slick rick...new school vs oldschool www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlld4TVOT8k
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Post by jonesat on Jun 6, 2007 21:10:27 GMT -5
Yes, I could've just said "That's wack.", but it wouldn't have gotten the same reaction out of you. You wouldn't have stood up and defended your position so fervently. You would have given a boring response like Jonesat's first one: Come on! Tell me why this is good. Convince me! You'll probably think that I'm just trying to justify myself, but I truly believe that, in order to get to people's true feelings and opinions, you have to piss them off from time to time. People are so diplomatic in conversation it's sickening. They'll tell you about as much as they think you can handle. They'll hold back quite a few things to keep from offending you. So, you may think it's sick, but I prod people. I exaggerate things I say to get people going. And not just here, but in real life as well. My closest and most trusted friends are the ones I've had tons of huge arguments and fights with. There were times where we just hated each other, but it all made our friendships stronger. I respect them, and they respect me. And we're not afraid to speak up when one of us is full of shit. None of my friends are Yes-men. If anybody tells you that anger is unhealthy, they're full of shit. Anger = passion. When people get angry, they stop being pussies and tell you how they really feel. That's not to say that everything they say will be true. A good portion of it will be insults they've been saving up for the occasion, most of which are only partly meant. But that's cool. I can be brought into question too. I'll examine whether what's said is true or not. If I think it's true, I fix it. If I don't, I disregard it. No harm done. Everything should be called into question. But people are too "nice" to disagree with one another. But there's nothing nice about letting someone hold to an idea that you feel is wrong. Disagree. There's only 2 possible outcomes: 1. They change their minds and agree. 2. They re-examine their ideas and strengthen their reasoning for holding to them. Again, no harm done. True, doing this as frequently as I do, makes me look like an asshole, but I don't care. Like Redman said "I'll bee dat!" To be honest, I'm going to check out some of Maestro's stuff. I think a lot of what he was saying in those interviews was pretty cliche, but, still, he seems to have a head on his shoulders. Plus, anybody who's been rapping that long deserves a look. But I'm not convinced about that Classified guy. I watched quite a few of these other videos before you posted them. It's all stuff I've seen and heard countless times before. Not interested. And, to be honest, I dropped out of this thread, because it just turned into a poorly played game of dozens. I mean, you guys could've came at me about the fact that I went to a private school or that I live with my mom. You could've talked about my face, and how I'm 21 but look like I'm 15. You could've talked about all the geeky anime shirts I wear. I mean, this is all stuff that could be observed/inferred from my myspace and youtube pages that you both admit checking out. But what do you guys come at me about?........... my porch. WTF?!?! LOL! I don't care if you make fun of me. But when you do it, do it right. STEP YOUR GAME UP! Jeez. LOL! I dont see a problem with those things, anime rocks-the art/stories that are told in most of them are amazing. i dont know what west penn is like, but most everywhere now ppl look younger then they actually are, no one thinks i look 22, plus private school is also a common thing in canada, since its free, so that too is very common after reading this, it just looks like lil nicky needs a hug!
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Post by murmkuma on Jun 7, 2007 0:16:55 GMT -5
word to everybody's mum
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Post by jonesat on Jun 9, 2007 9:26:53 GMT -5
word to everybody's mum if shitty movies has taught me anything, everything can be solved my a dance battle...that would be a sweet youtube video battle
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Post by murmkuma on Jun 9, 2007 11:32:58 GMT -5
seein as how i havent been in a dance off since the early 90's imma cop out out an quote my favorite rapper maestro 'some MC's like to dance all night, but I like the brothers who can rock the mic with bass an adrenaline....' lol maybe some time ill cut a vid with b-boi homie ninja'd up ;D
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Post by jonesat on Jun 9, 2007 11:36:30 GMT -5
seein as how i havent been in a dance off since the early 90's imma cop out out an quote my favorite rapper maestro 'some MC's like to dance all night, but I like the brothers who can rock the mic with bass an adrenaline....' lol maybe some time ill cut a vid with b-boi homie ninja'd up ;D l m a o that'd be funny
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