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Post by Tchalvak on Aug 16, 2006 14:26:02 GMT -5
Currently, chatting means that you can't do other stuff, like check your mail and split people's heads open with shuriken.
I think that it'd be good to be able to chat while doing other things, and there's two ways that I see of having that happen.
First, I could set up a mini-chat, which would sit right above the quickstats. The mini-chat would show maybe the last three or four posts to the chat, in really small lettering, complete with a "post" and a "refresh" option. It'd have to be really tiny.
Second, I could set up the chat to open itself up in a seperate window, so that everyone can do ninja stuff (visit the dojo, kill people) in one window, and switch to the other window when they want to chat.
And I could do any combination of the three options, though I think having -both- a seperate chat page and having the option to open up the chat in the same window might be a bit redundant. If I do the mini-chat, we'll have at least one of the other ones as well.
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Post by kenpachi on Aug 16, 2006 14:46:48 GMT -5
i want to be able to talk and kill people and be able to see what has been said while I'm spreeing.
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Post by Tchalvak on Aug 16, 2006 15:01:33 GMT -5
Sure, the mini-chat option would allow that.
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Post by firesword on Aug 16, 2006 22:37:00 GMT -5
The small one sounds nice since you could only have a single window open. Some computers freak out and have a fit with two windows; although, how small would the lettering be? If really small than another window sounds nice, but would it be bigger in a seperate window?
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Post by rihochan on Aug 17, 2006 2:38:11 GMT -5
It is a good idea. I used to play a game called Rivaled Fate that used that system and it made it a lot of fun. As it is, it is too much trouble to chat most of the time. A further question, would it be real time, or will we still have to refresh to get it to show the next lines? I will suggest that access to the chat be denied to level ones... Just so they won't waste our time asking about stuff that is in the FAQ.
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Post by murmkuma on Aug 17, 2006 10:02:20 GMT -5
mini window,yep
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Post by Tchalvak on Aug 17, 2006 16:17:35 GMT -5
While yes, people constantly needing to ask about how the game works and all that is annoying, I wouldn't restrict the people who need the advice most (newbies) from being able to ask.
I take the fact that newbies always have to ask certain questions as a sign that the site isn't as newbie friendly as it should be. Just not exactly sure how to make it better in that regard.
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Post by captainnoob on Aug 18, 2006 18:51:21 GMT -5
Well the problem with the mini chat is that it will slow down people with slower internet connections. The pages take long enough to load on a 56k with the whole quick stats thing anyway without adding mini chat. If people are so into chating, just open it up in a new window and toggle back and forth. I say leave the chatting as it is.
And in reply to auto linking noobs to the tutorial, first try actually making the tutorial useful. For example, all the stuff about classes needs to be much more specific. It doesn't even tell you what poison is.
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Post by Tchalvak on Aug 19, 2006 13:20:34 GMT -5
Re: captainnoob:
I suspect that what you're basing your prediction of slowness on is your experience with the current chat. The present system for nw1 chatting is indeed a nightmare. It is a chat that works from within the mail system, so when it searches for the chat messages, it has to sift through all the mail in order to get 'em. That makes it a slow bastard. A bit back I made a change that made it faster, which was essentially saying "stop searching after you get 30 messages instead of 200". It sped up the process. Now, by comparison, I plan to limit the mini-chat to 3 or 4 messages, so the opening of the actual chat should be very fast, and that's going to be one of my criteria for making it work, having it load quickly.
As for quickstats, yeah, it's slow for some reason (beagle tells me that it's the biggest bandwidth eating section of ninjawars, probably because it loads so frequently), and it's on my list as of right now to speed it up.
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Post by suavisimo on Aug 21, 2006 8:30:47 GMT -5
BTW NW2 Chat = Teh sh!t
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Post by Tchalvak on Aug 21, 2006 20:29:56 GMT -5
The MiniChat is now up and running. Kick it's tires and see if there's any problems you can find with the thing.
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Post by ShadowNoa on Aug 22, 2006 15:40:22 GMT -5
Freaking awesome!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by firesword on Aug 22, 2006 20:40:45 GMT -5
Nice, very nice. Thanks!
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Post by Exia on Aug 22, 2006 21:52:58 GMT -5
its kickin man!
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