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Post by dtmd on Nov 27, 2006 2:06:53 GMT -5
i think the only negative about NW is the fact that reset is so f'n late for me, and probably occurs while some of us are at work... therefore it makes it less fair and harder for us to get to it... my idea is to change the reset time from every 24hours to every 23 hours... this way, it allows you an even rotation and it's not anything drastic... it allows for each timezone to get a comfortable reset time and everyone's happy...
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Post by Legend on Nov 29, 2006 12:58:05 GMT -5
i was thinking like that yesterday the same person could benifit from it for like 3 day but then missout for the next few and it would rotate in a way that would make each person benifit more then once
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Post by dtmd on Nov 29, 2006 23:31:41 GMT -5
well my idea behind the 23 hour schedule would be so that it get earlier and earlier everyday. Think of it this way...
Tom goes to school/ work at 8:00 a.m.
Tom gets home at 5:30 p.m. (dam that 5 oclock traffic!) lol ... anyways...
Tom goes to bed at 10:30 p.m.
This give him approximately 5 hours of available *benefit time* or five days in a row of being on when reset occurs...
He'll go 19 days with the reset time not being good for him, and 5 days in a row where it will and then another 19 days...
Now, consider that different people live in different places around the world. This way, everyone experiences reset at at least a couple confortable times a month...
This is why i believe my idea will be good...
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Post by dtmd on Dec 9, 2006 19:04:01 GMT -5
does any one not agree with me
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Post by Exia on Dec 9, 2006 21:55:25 GMT -5
me
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Post by dtmd on Dec 10, 2006 2:10:35 GMT -5
why?
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Post by Tchalvak on Dec 10, 2006 2:20:47 GMT -5
The reset can be made to happen at a certain hour of the day, not on a timed rotation.
Thus, it would require a complicated, coded system of testing resets every hour, one that doesn't currently exist, to make a rotation happen. I understand that reset is an important issue, what with bringin' back all the warm bodies and bounties to deal with. What I would do is create a 24-hour setting that players can set individually to determine their revival time, but there is still a major/sweeping change to be done first, and I'd need more convincing to agree that altering the revival time is the next change that should be made.
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Post by Exia on Dec 10, 2006 12:27:48 GMT -5
thats why.
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Post by dtmd on Dec 10, 2006 20:36:02 GMT -5
well, i can see how it would be a pain in the butt to try to create the coding, but the thing is, it's really really an uncomfortable time for many people. I think that the personal reset time would be kewl, but it would have to be like a permanent thing. If it were changable, it would be able to be abused too much. I think that could be a good thing for everyone and should be looked into, but it's not up to me lol =) .
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Post by captainnoob on Dec 11, 2006 1:29:50 GMT -5
I think it should be left as is. Unless you have problems of not getting atleast 2 kills when you are alive, you shouldn't be worried about dying at the reset. One death a day isn't going to kill you.
wait...
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Post by thecount on Dec 11, 2006 7:21:35 GMT -5
First of all, dtmd, I suggested that few weeks ago and Tchalvak already explained that it isn't possible. And 2nd of all you say it's an "uncomfortable time for many people"... there are others for whom it IS a good time. And it's like the Captain said, one death (or icing) won't kill you. If you aren't able level without reset, you won't be able level with it either. And that's not the reset's fault!
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Post by suavisimo on Dec 11, 2006 8:46:46 GMT -5
What some people may or may not realize, is that death is a good hiding place, especially for those carrying a lot of gold. When you're dead, you don't get your bounty taken, or gold stolen or turns stolen, you're just dead. So the argument that the reset is at a poor time is kind of moot, as the people who are up can go slaugter those JUST rezzed, which means they have little to no accumulated bounty. So the reward for playing at non-peak time isn't that you accumulate tons of gold, but rather that you get a large chunk of kills with no one head hunting you.
Yet, this is only a perceived benefit because if a person who sprees shortly after reset accumulates a bounty, (say captain or nick in this case) and they stay alive, they'll have people gunning for them all day. Whereas those dead are safely at peace from the masses. That's one way to strategize around it.
Oh, and for clarity, we have people from all over the world playing Ninja Wars. If everyone was crying out to change the reset time to a new "peak" hour, we'd simply be brushing aside those with the same view point who play on non-peak hours. So there's no justification for it, in my eyes.
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Post by captainnoob on Dec 11, 2006 11:13:09 GMT -5
Actually that's not quite true. If you get on just after the reset, all the people who died and stayed dead with bounties come alive. There is quite a lot of gold to be made that way.
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Post by Exia on Dec 11, 2006 18:02:09 GMT -5
quite a bit indeed. alas im fine with the reset time now cause im usually dead when i get on so im cool with it.
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Post by dagonundone on Dec 11, 2006 20:38:43 GMT -5
Yeah, there is alot of gold. But I always build up a bounty and then kill myself. That way the people who bounty stalk at reset kill me and no one else ices me. Or even if they do, by the time I'm back alive, I have enough turns to kill a page or so. So, I always try to have about a 2.5k bounty before I log off.
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Post by suavisimo on Dec 12, 2006 8:52:12 GMT -5
I'm curious to know how someone dies with a bounty and retains it for when they come alive at reset. Anyone mind explaining that?
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Post by Tchalvak on Dec 12, 2006 9:50:09 GMT -5
NPCs, usually.
Anyway, I totally acknowledge the importance of the warm bodies and the bounty/money that reset gives, it's just a question of whether it's time-effective to mess with, or whether I should jus' make youze guys continue to deal with it as you always have.
The dueling changes will change the landscape such that I will probably need to consider resets and their effects afterwards, so ask me about that again then.
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Post by murmkuma on Dec 12, 2006 12:14:44 GMT -5
nw2, no more work on nw, work on nw2.
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Post by dtmd on Dec 13, 2006 19:47:01 GMT -5
well my whole reasoning behind this was because, i have work, school and other things that i do, not unlike other players, and sometimes, i would actually like a chance to get some bounties at reset. It sucks and i really dont think it's fair that it's at 2 a.m. for me and 6 p.m. for someone else, and yes i know that it's not the reset's fault. In fact, it's no one's fault. Im just saying this because whenever i am on, only 4 other players are on, usually, and no one sprees so it's impossible for me to get bounties, which allows me to level, which allows others to get bounties and level also. you see, by not doing it, you're just keeping the leveling aspect behind the game alot harder for us east-coasters and such. I was just stating that because i've talked to some fellow players and they agree wholey.
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Post by Exia on Dec 13, 2006 20:44:22 GMT -5
leveling isnt supposed to be easy i dont think you get that.
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Post by dtmd on Dec 14, 2006 1:39:26 GMT -5
right, .... still the reset gives other players more advantage over each other, not skill wise but opportunity wise... you still have to agree with that...
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Post by thecount on Dec 14, 2006 9:09:37 GMT -5
yeah and you got other advantages that those people don't have. Give it up, this is the way of the game. live with it.
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Post by suavisimo on Dec 14, 2006 10:02:07 GMT -5
You could move to a different time zone, or set your alarm to strike at the perfect moment.
I've heard of ninja doing that in the past.
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Post by dtmd on Dec 14, 2006 12:48:12 GMT -5
that would be me, but i have work, and school and i have gotten up in the past, but it's too hard and annoying to interupt sleep for reset... I have to set my alarm at f'n 2 in the am. it sucks ass. and most of the time, the reset doesn't even occur until 2:02 or 2:01...
what's up w/ that?
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Post by Exia on Dec 14, 2006 17:34:33 GMT -5
go to sleep earlier. or quit complaining.
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Post by dtmd on Dec 14, 2006 22:13:57 GMT -5
go to sleep earlier? what are you talking about? going to sleep earlier, what would that help?! the reset is at 2 oclock in the morning!
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Post by Exia on Dec 14, 2006 22:27:50 GMT -5
then................DEAL WITH IT!!!!
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Post by dtmd on Dec 15, 2006 0:46:03 GMT -5
.... great counter point...
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Post by Beagle on Dec 15, 2006 10:21:02 GMT -5
Listen, everyone, we hear you loud and clear. NinjaWars has a lot of issues, one of them being the way resets work. This discussion of the positives and negatives is good. We do what we can to get NW2 coded, and while we do that, we go back and test changes out in NW2 for coding practice, for research, or just to keep you all happy. Let's not get upset about discussing issues. Discussion is good, please don't try to stifle it, and please don't try to force issues into the ground. Let's all have discussions as if we're partners in trying to make a great game, because that's what we are.
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