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Post by Beagle on Jan 15, 2007 13:58:02 GMT -5
Ok, so black ninja currently have:
Poison: Target loses health every turn until dead. Stealth: Opponents cannot attack you for 1 turn. Opponents you kill while stealthed do not know your name.
It's been said that poison is good, but really not a great skill. It's been said that stealth is overpowered sometimes, really good other times.
So, if you could create ONE skill for the black ninja: 1) What would it do? 2) How much would it cost? 3) What would it replace, if anything?
Come up with answers, not only will we consider them for NW1, but we might find some interesting ideas for NW2.
If we have the time, we'll implement the skills.
Have at it all, AND NO FLAMES!
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Post by Balsac on Jan 15, 2007 16:32:08 GMT -5
i would love stealth for free like black ninja, i stealthe dam near every thing, and if i did it for free that would let me spend my gold on more speeds, fires scrolls , and shurikens, save tons of gold with that, so i think thats good,
but poison would be pretty cool if it took health every time you click anything to refresh, that would make you think about your next move a bit more, maybe bring back the anitdote but make it cost 500 gold or more, or even five turns lol
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Post by ShadoWeaver on Jan 15, 2007 16:48:56 GMT -5
for one stealth takes three turns, unstealth is free.
I like black ninja they way they are really, but i do think that poison touch needs to be more poisonish. If u poison someone unless its a potent thing it doesn't kill instantly so why not make it depend on your lvl how Potent the poison is. The high lvl u are the more damage it does right off and the more damage it does over time. But poison should do damage over time. not like now where its easier to use it over and over again like firebolt. Itss poison not something that should kill instsntly unless u know how to use it. So higher lvl black ninja are more potent than the low lvl black ninja.
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Post by Balsac on Jan 15, 2007 17:02:09 GMT -5
long as poison isnt as powerful as firebolt, cause if it does get the same, then there really isnt any difference in class there
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Post by ShadoWeaver on Jan 15, 2007 17:06:06 GMT -5
its a dot(damage over time) low damage in the beggining but as trime goes on u get damage done to u so its not an instant thing unless there is a huge lvl diff like say 90 vs lvl 1 instant kill with poison or something.....more dot than instant damage
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Post by captainnoob on Jan 17, 2007 11:33:20 GMT -5
Poison should act over a smaller gap of time. It shouldn't do as much damage as, say, firebolt. However, maybe if it would refresh every time the quickchat automatically refreshes as opposed to every half hour.
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Post by Legend on Jan 17, 2007 20:08:39 GMT -5
i think black is fine maybe up the poisen thats all
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Post by Legend on Jan 17, 2007 20:09:58 GMT -5
oh and to go with the whole "help other ninja thing" let them be able to unstealth others and heal poisen
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Post by ShadoWeaver on Jan 18, 2007 16:02:46 GMT -5
I had to say something after reading Legend's OH SO BRILLIANT IDEA!
Ok if you haven't noticed the black ninja aren't at all built for helping others. I said put a heal other on white ninja because they seem to be a heal class, while the other classes are built for other ways of playing. Red for offence/kills, Blue for Defence/turns, and black for...stealth killing.
As seen be4 hand, i say take poison touch up the dot(Damage over time) and lower the inishial damage done when first used to almost nothing. Say u use poison touch. at first it does say 10 hp worth of damage. Nothing at all really, helll u could put it down if you want. After time goes on, or sugested by balsac and captain, when u refresh the page u get a higher damge done to you, say 20 or more(depending on your lvl) a lvl 100 uses it on a lvl 1 boom first thing done 15hp of damage, but now he is poisoned. I like the refresh idea since it DOES make one thing of how to use his final clicks to play the game. He refreshes a page to look at stats or go to the chat, and boom 60 hp done to him(remember this is a lvl 100 that hit him so the dmg is high) HOLY CRAP! 60hp just lost!
Well, now add in an antidote that takes a certain amount of clicks to get....and yes make them use their last remaining health to get the antidote not make it able to buy. So they have to figure out which buttons to hit to gett the antidote be4 diying(granted at that point next click will kill them) well thats my only idea for a black ninja....although i will say even if nothing is done to them i don't really care. They are still one of the best classes to play the way they are.
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Post by firesword on Jan 19, 2007 19:03:02 GMT -5
Hm...perhaps a poison that numbs other techniques for a certain amount of time? So if a black ninja was to use this on another, their skills (like blaze and so on) would be unusable for an alloted time.
I think fuyuhana basically covered any idea I'd have possible for 'helping others' skills
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Post by captainnoob on Jan 22, 2007 22:21:11 GMT -5
That would actually be pretty cool if it acted like blue ninja freeze until you buy the antidote. Like the poison was killing you so fast the only thing you have time to do is heal yourself. Although I still like the point fuyuhana made about the challenge of how to chose your clicking.
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Post by ShadoWeaver on Jan 23, 2007 0:51:37 GMT -5
i got to give credit where credit is due, i merely restated balsac's idea in a better wording.
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Post by Legend on Jan 23, 2007 17:12:21 GMT -5
y not make a poisen that like s i tried to use blaze it would hurt me as much as it hurt the other person and not let it be know that u have this just a thought
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Post by Balsac on Jan 29, 2007 12:13:48 GMT -5
how bout the dirty shuriken, lol, add some poison to a shuriken
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