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Post by shinobihokage on May 5, 2007 1:40:09 GMT -5
* = I think is a good idea Couple of suggestions, BTW the game is pretty good; EDIT* Re editing my suggestions.
**WEAPON SUGGESTION Throwing Knives (cheaper than shuriken but also weaker) Kunai (slightly stronger than shuriken and a bit more expensive) Giant Shuriken/Wind Demon (Triple the cost of Shuriken, extremely powerful)
** CLAW SUGGESTIONS ( Each claw is extremely EXTREMELY expensive, its very rare for someone to have one of these ) CLAW OF THIEF - Casts Cold Steal in Battle at the end of battle. So even if you win or lose you still cast cold steal at the bottom of the message. Bad news is, still has a chance to freeze yourself
CLAW OF FIRE - At the beginning of the battle you use Fire scroll.
CLAW OF GOLD - Works only when you win, you steal double as much money as you would when you win.
CLAW OF POISON - Casts poison touch at beginning of duel.
CLAW OF ICE - Begginning of match you use an Ice Scroll. Cause the player to have a "cold" and causes the players strength by 1/6 ( stolen from narutolegend)
*SCROLL IDEAS ILLUSION SCROLL Changes your name to a random persons name who is also online, Lasts 5 minutes. When someone clicks on you it sends them straight to the original persons detail page. If someone attacks you they attack the original person. If someone attacks you when the person you are illusioning as, it will say that they are dead. Lasts 5 minutes and the person will not get a message or anything to find out who was them. If you attack someone as an illusion, the person you attacked will get a the same normal message identifying the attacker.
SHARINGAN SCROLL ( derived from naruto ^^ ) Detects all the people who are online and who are stealthed OR is illusioned. Will not say who is stealthed and who is illusioned or not, it will just say the names; narutolegend, ShinobiHokage, captainnoob. The user will not know who is doing what. The victims will not see who used the scroll
*NINJA ITEMS Normal smoke bomb, cheaper than stealth but hides u for less of a time.
Advanced Smoke bomb, which hides u for a longer period of time and hides u from bounty list. VERY expensive tho
*DOUBLE EDITED INPUT WEAPON THROW MAXIMUMS Lvl 0-19 = 1 (Shuriken, Throwing Knives, Ice scroll etc.) max. Lvl 20-59 = 3 max. Lvl 60-99 = 5 max. Lvl 100+ = 7 max.
BTW did I say good game? ;D
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Post by shinobihokage on May 5, 2007 11:08:35 GMT -5
I dont really care about all of those suggestions I made but these ones I think are most important, and in my opinion would be good to implement. I put a star by those that I think are really good ideas;
-Implement that items are sellable in shops also, make items sellable maybe for 50% less than they are bought. So right now they cost 50, make them sell for 25.
-Equipment? Im not sure if there is already but i think there should be. Maybe just different headbands that raise a certain stat.
*-Maybe you can add more weapons in the shop, like Giant Shuriken that deals more dmg? and Kunai, and Giant Kunai, and Throwing Knives etc.*
*-When using shurikens or other weapons on enemies you should be able to put in the number of shurikens you want to throw.*
*-Change it from 2 Turn/Hour to 2 Turn/30mins, and for blue ninjas, you get 3 Turns/30mins*
*-Be able to send money to other people.
*-More stats to train, Add; Agility (chance to hit for twice the dmg, as in hitting them twice and they hit u just once. also, chance for opponent to miss attacks. ) Luck ( chance to hit for twice the dmg. )
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Post by Legend on May 5, 2007 13:16:38 GMT -5
i have to agree with jones on that one but still it would be better if you could sell items the other shit dont matter
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Post by shinobihokage on May 5, 2007 13:57:44 GMT -5
Ok, but you know that these are good suggestions;
-Implement that items are sellable in shops also, make items sellable maybe for 50% less than they are bought. So right now for example shurikens cost 50, make them sell for 25.
*-Maybe you can add more weapons in the shop, like Giant Shuriken that deals more dmg, but is more expensive? and Kunai, and Giant Kunai, and Throwing Knives etc.*
*-When using shurikens or other weapons on enemies you should be able to put in the number of shurikens you want to throw. Can only throw a maximum of 5 though*
*-Change it to 4turns/30mins, and for blue ninjas, 6turns/30mins
-Be able to send money to other people.
-More stats to train, Add; Agility (chance to hit for twice the dmg, as in hitting them twice and they hit u just once. also, chance for opponent to miss attacks. ) Luck ( chance to hit for twice the dmg. )
-Everyday you get payed 50gold?
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Post by shinobihokage on May 5, 2007 15:32:50 GMT -5
Hellooo?
Anyone there? say what you think please ;D
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Post by Exia on May 5, 2007 17:25:33 GMT -5
.....you type to much stuff.....
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Post by shinobihokage on May 5, 2007 18:18:40 GMT -5
ok fine..
*-More weapons in the shop, like Giant Shuriken, Kunai, Giant Kunai, and Throwing Knives etc.*
*-When using weapons on enemies you should be able to put in the number of the item (ex. shuriken) you want to throw.
*-Change it to 4turns/30mins, and for blue ninjas, 6turns/30mins
-Be able to send money to other people.
-More stats to train, like Agility.
there, less for you guys that are too lazy to read it all
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Post by Tchalvak on May 5, 2007 18:25:54 GMT -5
It does, actually, sound quite interesting to have multi-shuriken throwing, though it'd probably beg doing something like limiting the amount that could be thrown at once by some division of level, so that higher levels could throw more. It'd be simple, and no more unbalanced than the current method, just faster.
Many of the ideas that you mentioned are good but are the kind of thing that we are leaving to NW2, where it will be easier to make them happen (customizable avatars, for example).
Of course, the problem with many of these things is time, as in: there's a number of bugs that I still have to deal with, among other balancing changes.
So much to do, so little time to get it done in.
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Post by Legend on May 5, 2007 20:59:00 GMT -5
CHECK THIS OUT
SMOKE BOMBS-make you disappear from the playerlist/ bounty board(make your profile imposible to view) how fuckin sweet would that be no one would be able to see you for like an hour or 30 min ninja are stealthy but they use smoke bomb so they have a chance to stealth themselfs right ...
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Post by shinobihokage on May 5, 2007 22:54:13 GMT -5
For the limit of shurikens to throw maybe it can be like this;
MAXIMUMS Lvl 0-9 = 3 (Shuriken, Throwing Knives, Ice scroll etc.) max. Lvl 10-29 = 5 max. Lvl 30-49 = 10 max. Lvl 50-69 = 15 max Lvl 70+ = 20 max
Same with the other weapons, if you are gonna implement them (ex. Throwing knives, kunais, Giant Shurikens, Giant Kunais. Of course they will cost more =D )
The smoke bomb Idea, I think is O.K, But I think it should cost pretty expensive since it stealths you from the bounty list for 1 hour.
BTW dont forget the rest of my ideas like; Agility stat, more weapons, input how much you want to throw.
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Post by Legend on May 6, 2007 0:17:49 GMT -5
theres a button after u use an item that says "use another ______" you can just keep clickin that and hell yea smoke bomb cost hellovalot
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Post by shinobihokage on May 6, 2007 0:59:32 GMT -5
Yeah well that takes long, clicking and clicking and clicking, its easier and faster just to input how much you want to throw. Save time.
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Post by shinobihokage on May 6, 2007 10:53:29 GMT -5
Most important suggestions I think are these (in order from most important to least important);
MORE turns.. instead of 2 turns an hour, it should be 3 turns every 30 mins, and for blues its 4 turns or 5 turns every 30 mins.
More weapons ex. Giant Shuriken (cost more), Kunai (cost more), Giant Kunai (cost more), and Throwing Knives (cost the least).
When using weapons on enemies you should be able to put in the number of the item (ex. shuriken) you want to throw.
Stats to train, like Strength, Agility, and Defence. At the Dojo, it takes 10 turns to get 1 more point in strength, or agility, or defence. Strength raises dmg. Agility has the chance to attack twice, and avoid attacks (more agility, higher chance). Defence reduces dmg.
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Post by Beagle on May 6, 2007 19:07:15 GMT -5
We will most certainly not be raising the amount of turns you get.
NinjaWars is designed to be a casual game, one that you play in your spare time, not all the time. The more we raise the turn generation, the more the casual gamers care pushed out of the competition and the more hardcore gamers with lots of free time can gain an advantage. We don't want the game to be that way. If you only play for 45 minutes a day, as long as it's an enjoyable 45 minutes, that's all that matters.
We cannot add stats to NinjaWars 1, it's too much work for too little benefit. There are stats in NinjaWars 2 and they will not be migrated back to NinjaWars 1.
We can definitely add the ability to choose the number of items to use, and we could probably add a throwing knife or something.
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Post by Legend on May 6, 2007 20:15:06 GMT -5
smokebombs? plz
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Post by captainnoob on May 6, 2007 21:17:01 GMT -5
Well why don't you just make a nuke that kills everyone that is alive all at once and call it good.
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Post by shinobihokage on May 6, 2007 22:27:37 GMT -5
Ooo, Beagle you have a point.
Aryte leave the turns as it is, but still think that;
There should be number of input of how much weapons you want to use ( ex. Shuriken )
More weapons, like Throwing knives, Giant Kunai, Giant Shuriken.
BTW I seriously dont know how to play NW2, its SO confusing it drives me crazy, the navigation and everything is too complicated for me ><
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Post by shinobihokage on May 7, 2007 10:59:12 GMT -5
Theres going to be a lvl cap on it, so even if you do have a multi it wont do as good.
MAXIMUMS Lvl 0-9 = 3 (Shuriken, Throwing Knives, Ice scroll etc.) max. Lvl 10-29 = 5 max. Lvl 30-49 = 10 max. Lvl 50-69 = 15 max Lvl 70+ = 20 max
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Post by captainnoob on May 7, 2007 16:18:39 GMT -5
It would be changing this game from turn based into more of an rts. The more clicking there is, the slower everything goes, which is better in this case. If you could just toss 50 shurikens around, I could kill anyone in a single hit, no matter how much health they had. Heck, even 5 would do that. It'd just defeat the way the whole game is set up.
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Post by shinobihokage on May 7, 2007 17:23:46 GMT -5
Clicking more would slow the game down.
Also you have to be the lvl to throw that much.. If you guys think getting to lvl 70 is easy than ok ill go edit my post, but for me I think getting to lvl 10 is hard enuff for me lol
*EDIT* MAXIMUMS Lvl 0-9 = 3 (Shuriken, Throwing Knives, etc.) max. Lvl 10-39 = 5 max. Lvl 40 - 69 = 7 max. Lvl 70+ = 10 max.
BTW are you planning on doing the smoke bomb, adding throwing knives, giant shuriken, and doing this weapon throw input thing? If so, can you tell me when? I cant wait ;D
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Post by Exia on May 7, 2007 18:13:32 GMT -5
you have been saying the same thing over and over again we get the maximums.
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Post by shinobihokage on May 7, 2007 18:43:56 GMT -5
Well, he did make a point about the 50 shurikens being alot, so I had to reply saying that its not easy to get to lvl 60, and then i did realize he is kind of right so i edited it and reposted the new one.. How is that saying the same thing -.-
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Post by Legend on May 7, 2007 19:47:45 GMT -5
YOU PLAYED THE GAME FOR WHAT A WEEK you know NOTHING of the game your a noob in every possible way of the word if you guys add the use x amount of items YOU RUIN the game and cause mass problems and i personally will stop playing im sure others would be pissed as well ... i mean typing in use 10 ice scrolls and then hitting refresh takes 3 seconds in 3 seconds i took all your turns that shit aint right at least now u have about 3 sec reaction time to speed / stealth yourself same if u dont wanna die u keep high health but i still have one word for you
SMOKEBOMBS - make profile completely untouchable for 1 hour cost 5000 gold .... cant be pulled out of the smoke by nuttin not even if you attack no one and if some one goes to attack you this is the message "you look through the smoke but find nothing, a shuriken flies out at you, you dodge it but you wonder where it came from"
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Post by thevirginmonkey on May 7, 2007 20:13:03 GMT -5
Okay, here's my idea, have an item called "smokebombs" that's an instakill on any character potentially played by Legend (I say we keep track of it via IP). Also, the item should be fairly inexpensive, and dropped quite often by all NPCs.
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Post by Legend on May 7, 2007 20:34:48 GMT -5
ahahahahaha do it it dont matter to me just make sure it only works on me
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Post by shinobihokage on May 7, 2007 21:04:30 GMT -5
Yes I am a noob, and noobs still have suggestions -.-
Isnt a noobs suggestion better than an existing member who has been there for awhile? No actually.
For ex. When you have someone using your car for awhile, so long that he turns a blind eye to the messy ness in the car, but when you bring your girlfriend in and she first sees the inside of your car she will openly say her mind via; "Ewww, why is this so messy?" etc. etc.
And Did I say ice scrolls can be used? I said Shurikens/Throwing Knives/Giant Shurikens etc. (If implemented)
OBVIOUSLY if we made ice scrolls work with that, it would be so cheap -.-
BTW you can even read back, I said NOTHING about ice scrolls, OR fire scrolls or ANY scroll, ONLY weapons, *cough* *cough* dumass *cough* *cough*
Anyways, Im still wondering, are you planning to add the smoke bombs, more weaps, and the input thing? If so tell me when, I cant wait ;D
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Post by Beagle on May 7, 2007 21:12:25 GMT -5
I don't think smoke bombs are a good idea.
I think adding maybe another weapon like throwing knives is fine. No idea when we'd do it, since most of our development is on NW2, but who knows. Maybe Tchalvak will decide he has some spare time and put it in. I think that reducing the number of clicks to do something is always a good thing, mainly because anyone can come in and write a script that does it for them anyway, and then it becomes the scripters that win. However, I hear the anguish of the more experienced players and I'm inclined to side with them on this for the time being. I, personally, don't think a games pace should be slowed down by the number of clicks a person can execute quickly, but by balanced rules. But, if that's the way NW1 is being enjoyed, I'm not gonna ruin it.
One thing you need to learn, shinobihokage, is patience...
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Post by shinobihokage on May 7, 2007 21:16:20 GMT -5
BTW I got another Idea; How about Ninja claws? You equip them to yourself
Each are unique and VERY expensive, here are my suggestions;
(EVERYTHING ONLY WORKS IN DUEL)
CLAW OF THIEF - Casts Cold Steal in Battle at the end of battle. So even if you win or lose you still cast cold steal at the bottom of the message. Bad news is, still has a chance to freeze yourself
CLAW OF FIRE - At the beginning of the battle you use Fire scroll.
CLAW OF GOLD - Works only when you win, you steal double as much money as you would when you win.
CLAW OF POISON - Casts poison touch at beginning of duel.
BTW can you guys tell me if the weapons (shuriken, Giant shuriken, Throwing knives), claws, and weapon input are going to be implemented? If so tell me when, I cannot wait ;D
EDIT*
O.K how about I do a poll for the input thing since its only naruto complaining.. hold on
BTW Narutolegend your the only one complaining, the input wouldnt be abused because theres a level cap. More weapons sounds more fun, Giant Shuriken would do more dmg then shuriken, and Kunai would do slightly more dmg then shuriken, and throwing knives would be the weakest. More versatile. The claws would make people more individual, and the smoke bombs, sounds ok but I dont know.
NarutoLegend says "UR NOOB UR NUBBY NUB NUB UR NUB LEAVE PLOX? LEAVE PLOX?"
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Post by Legend on May 7, 2007 22:03:08 GMT -5
SMOKE BOMBS COME ON BEAGLE if i get a poll where it clearly states we want smoke bombs will you hook me up man??
i want them to be "legend smokebombs"
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