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Post by yamatanoorochi on Jan 24, 2008 14:50:59 GMT -5
If you want this game to be played well, some things HAVE to change.
You made dueling way too easy. People are spreeing like mad and build up a huge inventory because killing people is so simple now. 2nd... higher levels just get stronger and stronger cause they can take everyone's bounties now. it's insane. By the time the USA wakes up, everyone is dead... simply because of the easy killing.
oh and, I'm not saying this for myself... I'm european, the reset time is perfect for me. But it's ruining the game...
People blame me because I often kill the player list. Sure I do sometimes, but if I don't, it doesn't make a difference cause others will clear it then before the USA wakes up. So the only difference for me is those few enemies gets the kills instead of me. lol then I pick me of course
My suggestions???
1. Make dueling cost 5 turns again... that will slow the levelling down already.
2. Bring back the level limit for taking bounties (lets say 10-15 levels). That way people will have to think twince before they start mindless spreeing.
3. As a consequence of point 2, make a level cap for the banked kills OR do automatic levelling. If the bounty-taking-limit is set back, some people will just bank kills like mad (right, balsac?) and never level. So you have to force people to level
4. For God's sake, do NOT change the ice again. If you change it, it will cause massive spreeing again too cause no one bothers to ice.
5. Try to make the reset more random too (or atleast at different times). Or instead of 24 hours, do 23 hours... then the reset will happen perfect for everyone on a different day.
I've been playing this game for about 19 months now, I was here before all those changes occured. So I saw the game change. And the way it is now, completely ruined...
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Post by jonesat on Jan 24, 2008 15:00:00 GMT -5
If you want this game to be played well, some things HAVE to change. You made dueling way too easy. People are spreeing like mad and build up a huge inventory because killing people is so simple now. 2nd... higher levels just get stronger and stronger cause they can take everyone's bounties now. it's insane. By the time the USA wakes up, everyone is dead... simply because of the easy killing. oh and, I'm not saying this for myself... I'm european, the reset time is perfect for me. But it's ruining the game... People blame me because I often kill the player list. Sure I do sometimes, but if I don't, it doesn't make a difference cause others will clear it then before the USA wakes up. So the only difference for me is those few enemies gets the kills instead of me. lol then I pick me of course My suggestions???1. Make dueling cost 5 turns again... that will slow the levelling down already. 2. Bring back the level limit for taking bounties (lets say 10-15 levels). That way people will have to think twince before they start mindless spreeing. 3. As a consequence of point 2, make a level cap for the banked kills OR do automatic levelling. If the bounty-taking-limit is set back, some people will just bank kills like mad (right, balsac?) and never level. So you have to force people to level 4. For God's sake, do NOT change the ice again. If you change it, it will cause massive spreeing again too cause no one bothers to ice. 5. Try to make the reset more random too (or atleast at different times). Or instead of 24 hours, do 23 hours... then the reset will happen perfect for everyone on a different day. I've been playing this game for about 19 months now, I was here before all those changes occured. So I saw the game change. And the way it is now, completely ruined... yup, i heavy support automatic leveling with bounty limit together. reset time is definatly fucked up, i wake up at 8am eastern and the game is allready beat. dont work on some weird system that is too complicated to bother with, just make the reset time even every 23 or 22 hours, a variation of just an hour like that will make it so that it slowly enters and slowly leaves EVERYONES perfect time zone so everyone gets a fair chance to actually play in this game. and leave the ice, of course people who play for 1 day and quit are going to bitch about it. think about hte ppl who play 24/7 here and know the game very well. even legend was crying after the ice was changed ,and he was the one who wanted it changed at first!. and with the automatic leveling, the 5 duel thing would work out better too. the game would definatly imporve 100000% just by doing those few simple things edit. yeah i know i've been saying automatic leveling for years and years, but it would also fix the ranking, no more having a lvl 20 being ranked higher then a level 70 lol
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Post by Balsac on Jan 24, 2008 18:05:58 GMT -5
good ideals i think, but i dont like autolevel, unless revive is free for everyone. and yeah i banked but i did distribute my profits to my clan members to try and get them along
i like the five turn duels too
and i like to say again that site beingable to unstealth is unfare, there is no way to defend your turns now, if you keep the ice so it take you down to five turns and get rid of the immediate list refresh that might help, cause all those whites have to do is wait to see you on the list and they get you and now you got no turns before you even get a kill in, unstealthing sucks, i dont mind gettin iced to zero long as i can sneak in at the next turn refresh use a speed and then a stealth and feel a bit safe and the competivness can continue make lots of fun,
i like the ice scroll to take you to zero, but like i says, site compeletly unbalances things, its like a nuclear icebolt
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Post by jonesat on Jan 25, 2008 0:25:26 GMT -5
good ideals i think, but i dont like autolevel, unless revive is free for everyone. and yeah i banked but i did distribute my profits to my clan members to try and get them along
i like the five turn duels too
and i like to say again that site beingable to unstealth is unfare, there is no way to defend your turns now, if you keep the ice so it take you down to five turns and get rid of the immediate list refresh that might help, cause all those whites have to do is wait to see you on the list and they get you and now you got no turns before you even get a kill in, unstealthing sucks, i dont mind gettin iced to zero long as i can sneak in at the next turn refresh use a speed and then a stealth and feel a bit safe and the competivness can continue make lots of fun,
i like the ice scroll to take you to zero, but like i says, site compeletly unbalances things, its like a nuclear icebolt everyclass has a skill that people say is "unfair" im sure white ninja think its "unfair" that red ninja can kill you with a firebolt even if your stealthed. you dont hear people crying that there is no way to defend your life and killpoints now do you? white needed that tweak in skill to be an actual good class. sight also has nothing to do with ice. icebolt can take your turns through stealth as well, so if going by your saying, we should take away sight, take away firebolt, and take away icebolt, because they are all unfair they attack through stealth being white doesnt mean they can ice you better, i can wait untill you come to life and ice you right away, sight has nothing to do with that , and if you stealth, i just firebolt you. lol and the instant refresh list makes the game harder. no one can spree invisible anymore, and thats a good thing. time to play like a ninja and be stealthy and not get caught alive everyone!!!
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Post by K3nny th3 1d10t n1nj4 on Jan 25, 2008 5:13:50 GMT -5
I like the proposed changes il admit i haven't been playing that long but before the reset the game was to easy i spreed without fear cos i knew i would always have that 5 turn cushion.
As for the reset time I'm the same as yamata. i live in a country where my reset is the perfect time. but it is unfair that by the time the USA and the rest of the world get up there is no game to play.
I like the idea of the lvl cap and or the auto lvl system it would force people to use there brain and employ strategies rather than mindless spreeing also it would help with the big gaps between players lvls.
and 2 last things: DONT CHANGE THE ICE and Make the dim mak cost more.
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Post by Balsac on Jan 25, 2008 10:34:45 GMT -5
then firebolt and poison should beable to collect bounties , cause white will be able to unstealth someone and take the bounty with out a dim makand being white does mean they can ice you better, it has everything to do with ice, makes it a whole lot easier, i got a slow connection, most have a fast one, by the time i see i been unstealth i will have no turns im not saying take away firebolt icebolt or poison, just the unstealthing,keep site and take out the so and so has so many turns left that way only the white can tell when they have all the turns
no you cant defend you killpoints but if you have turns its not hard to make that up good ideals i think, but i dont like autolevel, unless revive is free for everyone. and yeah i banked but i did distribute my profits to my clan members to try and get them along
i like the five turn duels too
and i like to say again that site beingable to unstealth is unfare, there is no way to defend your turns now, if you keep the ice so it take you down to five turns and get rid of the immediate list refresh that might help, cause all those whites have to do is wait to see you on the list and they get you and now you got no turns before you even get a kill in, unstealthing sucks, i dont mind gettin iced to zero long as i can sneak in at the next turn refresh use a speed and then a stealth and feel a bit safe and the competivness can continue make lots of fun,
i like the ice scroll to take you to zero, but like i says, site compeletly unbalances things, its like a nuclear icebolt everyclass has a skill that people say is "unfair" im sure white ninja think its "unfair" that red ninja can kill you with a firebolt even if your stealthed. you dont hear people crying that there is no way to defend your life and killpoints now do you? white needed that tweak in skill to be an actual good class. sight also has nothing to do with ice. icebolt can take your turns through stealth as well, so if going by your saying, we should take away sight, take away firebolt, and take away icebolt, because they are all unfair they attack through stealth being white doesnt mean they can ice you better, i can wait untill you come to life and ice you right away, sight has nothing to do with that , and if you stealth, i just firebolt you. lol and the instant refresh list makes the game harder. no one can spree invisible anymore, and thats a good thing. time to play like a ninja and be stealthy and not get caught alive everyone!!!
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Post by yamatanoorochi on Jan 25, 2008 11:34:26 GMT -5
But Balsac... what about blue then? If I want to ice you in stealth, I just turn blue. It's the same thing... actually it's easier for blue. White has to unstealth, then ice, then stealth... blue just needs to coldsteal or ice bolt and you're iced & stealthed.
I agree with more expensive dim maks! 20 kills is too little for such a powerful scroll.
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Post by Balsac on Jan 25, 2008 11:45:22 GMT -5
you guys know dam well its faster to just unstealth some one and use a icescroll in another window thats set up and it wont cost five turns to only take the few turns that icebolt does and there is no chance of being frozn by cold steal,
a firescroll too, only better then firebolt though cause you can collect a bounty firebolt just kills you so what one kill point to make up,
theoriticaly you given white the abilities of two other classes only better, i dont understand how you guys dont see this
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Post by K3nny th3 1d10t n1nj4 on Jan 25, 2008 12:09:13 GMT -5
you guys know dam well its faster to just unstealth some one and use a icescroll in another window thats set up and it wont cost five turns to only take the few turns that icebolt does and there is no chance of being frozn by cold steal,
a firescroll too, only better then firebolt though cause you can collect a bounty firebolt just kills you so what one kill point to make up,
theoriticaly you given white the abilities of two other classes only better, i dont understand how you guys dont see this sac you wouldnt be saying this if there was a unstealth scroll white ninja have no offensive skill blue has icebolt red has firebolt black has poison white have sight. you cant blame us cos we are white ninja everybody else has an offensive skill so its only fair that white can unstealth. my solution to the problem make an unstealth scroll. as for white having two other classes abilities you guys have that option too.
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Post by jonesat on Jan 25, 2008 14:30:04 GMT -5
then firebolt and poison should beable to collect bounties , cause white will be able to unstealth someone and take the bounty with out a dim makand being white does mean they can ice you better, it has everything to do with ice, makes it a whole lot easier, i got a slow connection, most have a fast one, by the time i see i been unstealth i will have no turns im not saying take away firebolt icebolt or poison, just the unstealthing,keep site and take out the so and so has so many turns left that way only the white can tell when they have all the turns
no you cant defend you killpoints but if you have turns its not hard to make that up everyclass has a skill that people say is "unfair" im sure white ninja think its "unfair" that red ninja can kill you with a firebolt even if your stealthed. you dont hear people crying that there is no way to defend your life and killpoints now do you? white needed that tweak in skill to be an actual good class. sight also has nothing to do with ice. icebolt can take your turns through stealth as well, so if going by your saying, we should take away sight, take away firebolt, and take away icebolt, because they are all unfair they attack through stealth being white doesnt mean they can ice you better, i can wait untill you come to life and ice you right away, sight has nothing to do with that , and if you stealth, i just firebolt you. lol and the instant refresh list makes the game harder. no one can spree invisible anymore, and thats a good thing. time to play like a ninja and be stealthy and not get caught alive everyone!!!
dude, your trying to make white useless again, and i dont understand why. white has no good combat moves. they only thing white was good for was to sight someone, and everyone was stealthed anyway so it didnt do anything. now they have a good move that makes them equal with the other class's. Also, a dim can kill anyone regardless of stealth or not, so that doesn't make sense also, if you know u have a slow connection, you shouldnt just be sitting there out in the open with a stealth scroll on, and you think because your out there very slow and not paying attention that you deserve to be invincible lol? ur acting like every character in the game is a white ninja lol it makes no sense to take away white's only good move. its not over powered and any of the other class can do worse attacks. (and its ALOT easier to just use a blue ninja and use icebolt , its not easier to sight, and waste alot of inventory of ice scrolls on someone, either way, if someone wants to harm u while you are stealthed, its going to happen whether they get a blue ninja to ice you while stealthed (then your fucked even more because you cant unstealth) or get a white to find you with sight (SIGHT = seeing you, makes sense they can see you when your hiding lol) or red to just keep killing you with firebolt. the only real problem i see here, is that you have dial up, which makes anything in this game bad for you lol any no, dont make an unstealth scroll because then white will just be useless again, and if every single class can unstealth, no one will bother to stealth. gotta rememebr, not everyone is white, and not everyone WILL be white, because its not that good to be the best class in the game. so that mean its balanced.
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Post by Idiot ninja on Jan 26, 2008 0:46:47 GMT -5
you got a point there Jones if everybody had an unstealth ability then stealth would become useless and whites would only be good for seeing players stats. as for sac having a shit connection he has my sympathy.
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Post by yamatanoorochi on Jan 28, 2008 22:52:56 GMT -5
and Change the bloody reset time!!!
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place here. People always complain that the Tyrants are clearing the list.
What would you do if you were me??? If I don't clear the list, 2 options are possible: 1. Silverblade & red eyez clear the list. 2. We have to be around at all times to stop him so that others can spree.
Option 1: can you blame me for choosing myself to get the kills? option 2: I'm no babysitter and I have other things to do too. I'm just a player like everybody else. it's not my job to keep the players alive so that others can kill them.
Also, because of the dead list. (american) Players join up, see there's nothing to do and leave (and don't come back)...
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Post by Balsac on Feb 8, 2008 16:49:44 GMT -5
i you know it is way more economical to unstealth someone and ice scroll them, way faster too, way more economical to unstealth someone and take a bounty with a firescroll after you saw that their heatlh is lowered, im not going to get into alll the stratigical advantages that unstealthing some gives you, its way to many,
im not trying to make the white class less offensive, im trying to deferentiate the classes skills more, not every ninja should be offensence, white is supposed to be more defensive to my understanding, deflect, used to have more health at reset, and i have made lots of suggestions for white ninjas to heal themseleves and ohters in their clans (i made a great post about it working like gold but on a higher scale), or just give them back a larger percentage of heatlh at reset again, or how bout an automatic healing, like poison but only works on the white ninja?
i made suggestion that were pretty dam good for all classes, i m just diehard red so my opinions seem bias as hell and i know it.
you say its time to play like a ninja again and not get caught but thats just what is takin away with site unstealthing,
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Post by jonesat on Feb 8, 2008 17:17:09 GMT -5
i you know it is way more economical to unstealth someone and ice scroll them, way faster too, way more economical to unstealth someone and take a bounty with a firescroll after you saw that their heatlh is lowered, im not going to get into alll the stratigical advantages that unstealthing some gives you, its way to many,
im not trying to make the white class less offensive, im trying to deferentiate the classes skills more, not every ninja should be offensence, white is supposed to be more defensive to my understanding, deflect, used to have more health at reset, and i have made lots of suggestions for white ninjas to heal themseleves and ohters in their clans (i made a great post about it working like gold but on a higher scale), or just give them back a larger percentage of heatlh at reset again, or how bout an automatic healing, like poison but only works on the white ninja?
i made suggestion that were pretty dam good for all classes, i m just diehard red so my opinions seem bias as hell and i know it.
you say its time to play like a ninja again and not get caught but thats just what is takin away with site unstealthing, i still think its ok, and its WAY more easier to just click firebolt, or just click ICE BOLT then use up skills + items
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