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Post by annihilate on Apr 30, 2008 19:39:13 GMT -5
Super awesome new scroll types for each class! I was just thinking that each class should be able to make their own special, powerful scroll, at the cost of mmm...20-40kills each at the dojo!
Blue- Freeze scroll- Cost, 40 kills. This would freeze a ninja(unstealthing them if stealthed) for 5 minutes(+2 seconds per level? max 8 minutes?). If the victim is killed they still stay frozen, until the time limit is up.
Red- Defrosting scroll- cost, 20 kills(flame scroll)...oh well the name doesnt mattter...only the effects! This would remove the frozen status....simple as that.
Black- Shadow scroll- cost, 40 kills(this would be needed if u disregard my other ideas!) This scroll would hide u from the player list and put u into an "invincible" state for 5 minutes(+2seconds per level? max 10 minutes?) the downside being if u attack somebody your time limit goes down 1 minute.(u would not be able to use items other then shurikens and fire scrolls, it would be ridiculous getting frozen by an invincible ninja) I don't believe this is too powerful because using it often would be very, very expensive.
White- truth scroll- cost, 30 kills. this would unstealth every stealthed ninja other then those in your clan(even ones who used the shadow scroll)
These scrolls could be used even if u are not currently the same color as the scroll. The downside being it would cost 10 turns to use it instead of 1. this would make ppl think even more about which class they would want to be, instead of automatically choosing white and red.....
Again...tell me ur opinions and also think of any better ideas to improve mine!
[glow=red,2,300]annihilate! ;D[/glow]
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Post by tmac on Apr 30, 2008 19:50:53 GMT -5
Hmmm anni i like your ideas... everything seems to cost a reasonable amount except the freeze and defrosting scrolls may be a little overprised but anyways.... but maybe all scrolls should cost the same of maybe a medium 20,25 or 30 so that it is an equal amount instead of a range of 20-40, maybe it would be better im not sure just laying outa suggestion... other then that your ideas seem vaild, and simplicit.... hmmmmm.... the 10 turns thing is an even better added effect, but i think maybe all 4 scrolls should cost the same... and one last thing...If there are (truth scrolls) whats the point of shadow scrolls if *truth scroll* effects work on people who have used shadow scrolls....so the shadow scrolls would maybe be a waste.... but uf they were *invinciable and undetectable* from the list then maybe it would Work... Meh its just my ideas
P.S. they are alot better then my old ideas... lol they stunk
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Post by annihilate on Apr 30, 2008 20:00:57 GMT -5
Hmmm anni i like your ideas... everything seems to cost a reasonable amount except the freeze and defrosting scrolls may be a little overprised but anyways.... but maybe all scrolls should cost the same of maybe a medium 20,25 or 30 so that it is an equal amount instead of a range of 20-40, maybe it would be better im not sure just laying outa suggestion... other then that your ideas seem vaild, and simplicit.... hmmmmm.... the 10 turns thing is an even better added effect, but i think maybe all 4 scrolls should cost the same... and one last thing...If there are (truth scrolls) whats the point of shadow scrolls if *truth scroll* effects work on people who have used shadow scrolls....so the shadow scrolls would maybe be a waste.... but uf they were *invinciable and undetectable* from the list then maybe it would Work... Meh its just my ideas Thanx for ur opinions t_mac! Your see....the Freezing scroll also unstealthes AND freezes the victim so unless uv got a defrost scroll up ur sleeve immediately after uv been frozen, u also(if u have one) get ur bounty stolen. I guess saying all that wasnt necessary...all u need to know is that it freezes and can be used as a mean of unstealthing for an easy bounty as well(plus an additional freezing period after they die) Truth scrolls....not many people are going to want to use them every single time they get attacked by a stealthed ninja, and there is also the risk of using it against a normally stealthed ninja in their haste to find the person and kill/ice them...their are quite a bit of scenarios that balance it out....I think 10 turns sounds fair for such a powerfull scroll if u are not of the same class as the scroll. this would make people think more about which class they want to be...if they dont want to spend so many turns We dont want the shadow scroll to be TOO powerful. or u would get ppl like me with a ton of kills banked up and using shadow sscrolls all the time. But if i had people using truth scrolls, then i would be carefull of when i use them
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Post by tmac on Apr 30, 2008 20:06:37 GMT -5
Hmmm very, very true... i see how your ideas all have there positives and negatives now that you *cleared it up even further* your ideas seem Really good ......
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Post by annihilate on Apr 30, 2008 20:07:52 GMT -5
thanx! i have nothing better to do when im delivering papers...so i often think about stuff like this....not all about ninjawars of course
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Post by tmac on Apr 30, 2008 20:11:14 GMT -5
Lol... well keep thinking up ideas lol
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Post by stormy66 on Apr 30, 2008 21:59:23 GMT -5
XD FREEZING SCROLL WOOHOO! I love your ideas anni. They're great. I think for the black ninja when you said "Black- Shadow scroll- cost, 40 kills(this would be needed if u disregard my other ideas!) This scroll would hide u from the player list and put u into an "invincible" state for 5 minutes(+2seconds per level? max 10 minutes?) the downside being if u attack somebody your time limit goes DOWN 1 MINUTE" i think that that one minute is too much..mabye a few seconds? XD lol..it would be a bit TOO expensive...or it wouldn't be used as much..not that they have to, but just saying.. Lol but i absolutely LOVE the icing scroll...mabye an..unfreezing scroll would be cool too. It would cost i unno,..like 4k or more..or kills too..but hehe..lol i dunno.
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Post by Tchalvak on Apr 30, 2008 22:41:25 GMT -5
The words "invincible" (or different words that mean the same thing) essentially render any idea null and void. Similarly something that "affects all ninja" is not balanceable.
The idea of different ninja classes making items is interesting, also hard to balance, though, since if they are at all powerful, it allows one character to make one, and then give that power to another character who didn't have to sacrifice for that power.
If you want to brainstorm in the direction that I'm looking to code these days, think defense.
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Post by annihilate on Apr 30, 2008 23:06:19 GMT -5
k, ull have to wait til i deliver papers then xD
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Post by Balsac on May 4, 2008 13:51:53 GMT -5
armour scrolls, two of em
helmut=15% protection
chest plain or what every a samuri wears to protect his body=30%
good till you die, cost you 500 for the first one and 1000 for the second one
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Post by annihilate on May 4, 2008 15:38:40 GMT -5
hmmmm, good idea. how bout strength boosting scrolls too?
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Post by Balsac on May 4, 2008 16:50:17 GMT -5
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Post by deathdepiction on May 4, 2008 18:51:14 GMT -5
the funny thing is, in that thread if you read the whole thing they want more work being put into NW2 than the first one. I agree with that all together myself since NW is already a fine game, but no one wants to touch NW2 due to there is nothing more than kill ninja to waste your stamina. granted i've done that just fine and sit at the top with two other fine gents, but would like to covers with people on NW2 because they are regulary playing like we do on NW1. sort of a bummer right now.
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Post by Balsac on May 11, 2008 14:24:05 GMT -5
i dont think there ever should have been a nw2, i think the effort put into that should be put into nw1 to make it better, give it quest, stats you can modify yourselfand what not, no need for two games, just one good one
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Post by annihilate on May 11, 2008 19:15:26 GMT -5
i agree....by the time nw2 is ready and everything ill be too busy to play it
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